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My Senior Friends: Nancy’s Hoppin’ Mad About Ageism

ageismAs I enter our favorite coffee place, I can tell that my two friends, Marlene and Nancy are having a lively discussion. They are both pouring over an article, and Nancy is waving her iphone around, never a good sign.

“That doesn’t bother me at all,” Marlene is saying, “It’s just what everyone says, and we have always considered it harmless.”

“It’s not harmless!” Nancy puffs, “When somebody says things like, “50 is the new 20, or 60 is the new 40, or any stupid comparison like that, they are saying that being 50 or 60 or 70 for that matter, is not fashionable, or hip, or even acceptable!”

“Hold it, hold it,” I venture. I can tell Marlene is getting upset, and I hate to see that. “You are both right. Yes, denying age in that way isn’t harmless, and yes, we have always swept comments like that under the rug. I think that is the problem. Maybe people aren’t careful about what they say when it comes to ageism.”

“Are you calling this ageism?” Marlene says, “Is this another ‘ism’ of yours, Diane, like ‘sexism’, and ‘racism’, the bandwagons that you jumped on before?”

“Call it whatever you want.” I say simply, “But it’s not just a bandwagon, none of these big issues ever are. But this one is special. This is about us, and we have precious little time to do our part.”

“Amen,” Nancy says, with a smug little smile.

“C’mon, you two,” I say, coaxing them out of their corners, “I’m glad you are discussing this. I think this article you printed, Nancy, appeared in the Huffington Post yesterday. It’s really topical.”

“Actually, I saw it on Facebook. You posted it. It really hit the mark. Just the thing I’ve been thinking about lately.”

“Ok, ” Marlene says, “I’m always willing to learn. So tell me what is so awful about saying things like ’60 is the new 40′?”

“Nancy?” I nod at her. “You take this one.”

“Well for one thing, saying things like that is denying that anybody who is 50 or 60 or 70 is worthwhile. You are saying that they have to pretend they are younger. And so many buy into it. There is an entire industry devoted to it—the anti-aging skin cream industry for one.”

“And the supplement industry. And the fashion industry. Not to mention the plastic surgery industry!” I chime in. “I think I mentioned these in a post I did last fall called, “No Virginia, Sixty is not the new Forty.”

“There’s more in this article.” Nancy says, “Another phrase, ‘You don’t look your age.’ This masquerades as a compliment, but really isn’t.”

Marlene can’t believe what she is hearing. She has always loved having people comment on her youthful appearance.

“What on earth is wrong with that?” she sputters.

The article says that comments about not looking your age reinforce the belief that old is automatically unattractive or decrepit  or not sexy. And that people should just stick to ‘You look good.’ ” They suggests you could say this when people say you don’t look your age, ‘What do you expect a person of my age to look like? A crypt-keeper?'”

“The article has some really good points,” I say, “But let’s not take someone else’s opinion. Let’s think for ourselves—how do you feel when someone says you don’t look your age?”

“Well, I’m embarrassed,” Nancy says immediately, “I duck the comment, sort of gloss over it and go to another topic. Quite frankly, I don’t know what to say. It seems demeaning. I know I look my age, and I’m comfortable with that. How about you, Diane?”

“I get flustered. I know they are not being honest. I think they are just flattering me, for whatever reason.” I say.

But Marlene is quiet. We can practically see the wheels turning. This is a new idea for her, and she needs to take her time.

“Think about it this way,” I urge, “If you said to a black person, ‘You don’t look very black, you could pass for white,’ how do you think they would feel?”

“Or, if you said to a woman today,” Nancy continues, “like they used to before sexism was practically stamped out, ‘You could do this job—you think like a man,’ you’d be taking your life in your hands!”

Marlene is shifting in her chair. I can see the lights coming on.

“I think I see it now,” she finally says, “But it’s so much clearer when it’s sexism, racism, or discrimination against any other group.  It seems so harmless when it’s directed at older people. It’s because it’s natural to be getting old. Everyone’s going to get older, so it’s as if people are including themselves when they make those comments.”

“Actually, they are not.” Nancy is emphatic, “We are separate from younger people. They think they will never get old. It’s human nature to avoid the unpleasant truth about old age.”

I look at my phone. It’s getting late. But I know this discussion isn’t over, and we will re-visit it over and over.  Nancy doesn’t have all of the answers and neither do I. But I’m happy that we have opened this—the most important issue of our lives. Marlene is still confused, I know. But she is getting there. She is in that uncomfortable stage where her world is shifting to make room for a new idea.

22 thoughts on “My Senior Friends: Nancy’s Hoppin’ Mad About Ageism”

  1. I have embraced getting older. There is so much I have already learned that paves the way for new avenues and adventures. A certain giddiness swells within me when someone says things to me like “39 and holding” and I counter with “no actually I am going to be 60 soon.” The look of disbelief that I would publicly announce my age is laughable. In a nutshell, I am proud of my age and have no qualms about the world knowing it.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      It took me a while to realize the implications of that sort of “praise”. Now I am clearer about how I should respond!

  2. Diane,
    You make a lot of good points in this dialogue. I never thought about ageism when I heard those comments, like “50 is the new 30”, and so on. But having read your post, I now see the way that they could be harmful. Thanks for waking me up!

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Thanks! By the way, I’m still trying to connect with you on Facebook! Haven’t been able to accomplish that yet!

  3. I’ve never understood the prejudice against older people, if anything I was prejudiced in favor of them. The upside of that is I’ve never worried about getting older.

  4. I blog about this and I get comments saying, “Right on, Lynne, we’re only as old as we feel!” or “Yes! We’ll never be old as long as we stay active.” Sometimes I explain, like you did to Marlene, hoping they don’t take offense. Then I get this: “Why do you let it bother you? Just accept it in the spirit it was intended. Why are you making such a big deal of it?” Finally, I landed on this: I am doing it for my kids. I am trying to fix things so that by the time they’re my age, they’re fine with being old, and so is the rest of the world. Keep up the good work, Diane.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Whew! So glad you “get” it! It is a subtle distinction, and is an issue that will be receiving a great deal of attention as the baby boomers become older, don’t you think?

  5. I have to side with Marlene on this one. My view is that 50, 60, and 70 are not what they were in our parent’s day, let alone our grandparent’s day. at 69, I feel better than I did at 40, and although I am grateful for good health, I doubt my mother could have said this. I also believe we’ll say the same about 80,90, and 100.

    Also, (and Isay this from a neutral position and am not offended by your post), being bi-racial but identifying as black, people tell me that all the time, and as it’s true, I don’t take offense. I tell them yes, I could pass for white, but I always make sure I don’t.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      We definitely are in better shape, physically and mentally, than the previous generation, I agree. It’s the subtle suggestion, though, that it’s not okay, and so much more desirable, to be 20 years younger. I’m so glad you commented, Virginia! I love your honest, strong ideas.

  6. Well Dianne, it seems that ageism is going to be an interesting subject and stir some interesting emotional reactions for some time to come. I think it is important not to accept a label or to put a label on anyone because once you put a label on a person you stop seeing them. You have put them in a box and filed them very neatly away and really destroyed their unique humanity. Of course every human at every age is going to express their nature by the experiences they have enjoyed along the road but we should be looking at that unique soul and listening for the stories and the lessons that are offered at all ages. Sorry this is so long.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Yes, our experiences and stories are what connects us. I will continue to address ageism through the stories of the seniors I have introduced (Nancy, Marlene, Adrien). I feel that ageism is more subtle than the other “isms”, but just as dangerous to the profiled group. Thank you for all of the work you do for our senior community. I love the ‘Senior Salon’, but have had some technical difficulties logging on. I’m in the process of fixing that.

  7. I find myself guilty sometimes about being ageist against myself! Phrases like “It’s an age thing” are too easily used as justification for saying or doing something stupid. Having read this I’ll try to do better, as the older I get the less I like the idea of someone judging me by my age! Nice article, I would have hit the ‘like’ button if I could have found one. Maybe that’s an…. no, stop it!

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      It’s not only the ‘judging’ part, it’s the ignoring that gets me…We are only beginning to speak up!

  8. i’m late to the party here!
    i’ve been meaning to come over each time from monk’s posts and then i don’t.
    i certainly will from now on!
    i had read the one about your friend not driving that day… and found it insightful.
    but today!
    oh my.
    and though my current post is not totally about aging… it has total synchronicity as rummy likes to say! so i found it fascinating to come here and read about age.
    i always liked what gloria steinem replied to someone once when they had told her
    … thinking of it as a compliment … “you don’t look 70!”
    she said “this is what 70 looks like.”
    WOWZER.
    i can see now that i’ll have to explore your blog. past posts… and…
    just the fact that you live in victoria BC. oh my. have wanted to go there my whole life.
    and now. i see i’ve written a book. good grief. sorry!

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Lovely comment, Tammy j! I see your comments on other blogs, and have always enjoyed them. So happy to have you drop in on mine!

  9. Another thought-provoking post, Diane. Years ago I read the response Gloria Steinam made when told she looked good for her age; I think maybe she had just turned 50. Anyway, I loved her reply, which went something like this: “No. This is how 50 looks.” I decided when I read her words that I would own my age whatever it was: I happily announce it and don’t try to disguise it, and when I look in the mirror, I think,”This is how 73 looks.” Thank you for spreading the word about ageism to all your readers.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      You are so very welcome, Aunt Beulah! I love getting your insightful comments. I claim my age too, and it sure takes the pressure off!

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