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3 Reasons to End Disparaging Humor About Old People

In our culture, at long last, we have made headway in ending disparaging humor about many marginalized groups—other races, other religions, the opposite gender, sexual preferences, trans gender. and disabilities. Yet we persist in making derogatory remarks about the group we will all become—old people. We cannot, or will not, acknowledge that jokes about older people are ageist and discriminatory.

I know it takes decades, and much effort to change entrenched attitudes. Yet people have been working on this issue for years. In February, 2013, for instance, Kaven Peterson, editor of Changing Aging.org, an organization devoted to changing ageist attitudes, said this:

“What matters is that ageism is a very real and damaging problem in our culture. Older people are discriminated against, exploited, abused and neglected on a scale that dwarfs almost any other group. And humor that mocks old people and perpetuates negative stereotypes purely for the sake of a laugh has the effect of legitimizing and normalizing ageist behavior and discrimination. “

Not much has changed, since then. In fact, ageism seems more tenacious than ever. It’s still okay, for instance, to condescend to old people by calling them “dear” and “hon”. It’s still okay to have parties resembling ‘roasts’ in which people make fun of a ‘guest of honour’ who has reached a landmark age, usually 50. And it’s still okay to laugh at jokes by stand up comedians who direct their humor at old people. Late-night TV hosts especially, appear to be venomous in pointing out how terrible it is to be old.

1. Jokes directed at a person or a group, erode self-esteem

I’m happy and relieved that other groups have made headway in their battle to end discrimination, but I’m reminded every day that old people are still there, at the centre of comedy, the butt of jokes, continuously affronted by derogatory humor.

Maybe it stings more because we olders are being disparaged by younger people, many of whom have decades to go before they reach our years. It would be shocking and unacceptable, for instance, for a white person to make disparaging comments about black people. Yet a member of the black community, Chris Rock, is well-known for his subversive disparaging humor he uses to challenge racial inequality in the United States. People may gasp in horror at what he says, but he is excused, because he also is black, so the humor is largely accepted as self-depracatory.

Old age jokes are the last bastion of bad taste in our humor culture—comedians, who are older join in this also, and seem to be saying, “Look at me, I’m just like you—I’m geting old too. We are all in the same boat, so it’s okay.” That makes it not so shocking, although still offensive, when a comedian like Billy Crystal jokes about his own infirmaries as he ages.

Women used to laugh at sexist jokes a few decades ago. We adopted a form of shamed guffawing, shrugging off the barely disguised hostility. But we hated being the object of off-color jokes—and they bothered us enough to cause a revolt. Be assured that, although older people try to laugh and shrug them off, jokes against them leave their mark.

2. Disparagement humor fosters discrimination

In a September 8, 2016 article in “The Conversation”, Thomas E. Ford says,

“By disguising expressions of prejudice in a cloak of fun and frivolity, disparagement humor … appears harmless and trivial. However, a large and growing body of psychology research suggests just the opposite – that disparagement humor can foster discrimination against targeted groups.”

I’m convinced that this was the case when the Archie Bunker show aired during the 1970s. Whereas the majority of viewers accepted Archie’s invective against minorities as satire, and laughed at the absurdity of it, others saw it as giving permission to join in racist attitudes. To many, it seemed to convey an underlying truth that black people were inferior, a dangerous, intolerant attitude which still survives to some extent today.

3. Jokes about old people makes younger people dread aging

And so it is with old people. By normalizing behaviors that ridicule being old, our culture makes it harder, and certainly less attractive to be old. It doesn’t give us any credit for being more than just old, credit for our abilities, our contributions, our wisdom. We are not viewed as individuals—only as a group that is weak and infirm.

It’s not surprising, then that many younger people will do anything, spend millions on anti-aging treatments, spend hours a week on shaping their bodies, wear clothing that is uncomfortable, just to avoid looking like one of us. They’d do anything, it seems, to avoid being a punchline in the humor that disparages and marginalizes us!

Some of you will say that I’m over reacting, that it works for you to just ignore it, that you couldn’t care less. But that’s not how change happens. Issues like ageisn need to be held up to the light and scrutinized. We don’t yet know the shape of it, or how long it will take, but ageism—and that includes disparaging humor against old people—has become a trending issue, and it isn’t going away.

35 thoughts on “3 Reasons to End Disparaging Humor About Old People”

  1. Alexandra vanBever-Green

    #3 hits dead center!!

    I must admit to laughing with friends about being old to help ease the pain of an aching body to shame/dissapointment at not being able to do all I want to do. That laughter often led to those well worn jokes referenced in the article. I never felt the same disgust as when hearing jokes about women, gays, immigrants, etc. Then BAM #3…making yourng people dread aging. Suddenly all those years of jokes, minimizing the old generation, talking about how they just ‘didn’t get it’ were so slow and out of touch morphed into jokes…maybe to ease the guilt. Mind you I always respected my own family members. I knew them ‘ back when’ and saw their progression. But general ‘old people’….not so much.

    Thank you for the article. I hope it will help me with many changes.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Pamela, thanks for pointing out the significance of #3.One evening, while I was watching a very popular late night show, I observed the references about aging while imagining that I was younger. I experienced a more negative impression through that little experiment, and decided that the influence is greater than we think. It’s a bit of a stretch, but imagine someone with a disability watching a subject with that same disability being the butt of jokes. It would be beyond upsetting. But going back to your own experience of laughing off aches and pains of aging, keep in mind that you are ‘a member of the club’, so to speak, so to some extent, you are allowed! I really appreciated your comment!

  2. A sound post. When I was answering test questions to see whether I was fit for a hip replacement, I found myself joking slightly about those obviously designed to test dementia. I stopped myself and said that I shouldn’t joke about it because I could be there and because the young woman testing probably had patients who would have problems.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Good insight, Derrick! We simply don’t know, do we, what may lie ahead for us!

  3. Only one thing to say: I wish that I had written this since I’ve been making these points for years (generally, to deaf ears or dismissive smiles)! Bravo, bravo, bravo!!!!! Ant thank you!

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      People tend to accuse us of being touchy, too sensitive, blah, blah. But we are on the cusp of change, Marin, and that always means we have to be prepared to take some flak!

  4. Hi Diane! I think you know I agree with you on that. But like some of the other commenters said, most of us have been (or are still) somewhat guilty of this. I am catching myself more and more and attempting to turn the conversation around in a positive way. And that’s because the news is definitely positive. So many misconceptions about aging and thankfully the more of us who are writing about it and sharing the good news the better. (especially so that younger people –like your #3 above–realize that it is not only something to NOT fear–it can be the best time of your lives!) ~Kathy

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      We are all influencers, positive OR negative! It’s important to add your voice to this, Kathy. And just to be clear—I’ve laughed at jokes about old people as well. It’s endemic in our society.

  5. Yes, I totally agree with you that although our whole culture is by now sensitized to racism and sexism, ageism is still a poor relation. We have a very long way to go to make everyone aware of it.

    I have been preaching anti-ageism at every available opportunity for many years now–and taking people to task for ageist comments whenever and wherever I find them.

    The trouble is, ageism is still so ingrained in the culture that many old people collude with it without even realizing they are doing so. For example, every time I hear a woman describing herself as ‘seventy-five years young’ I want to scream!!

    The Old Women’s Project has a particularly good article about thinly disguised ageist remarks that I am sure every one of us has been on the receiving end of and yet may not even have recognized as ageist – see http://www.oldwomensproject.org/real_life.htm

    For example, have you ever said ‘Thank you’ when someone told you you didn’t look your age? You thought they were giving you a compliment–right? Wrong. They were implying that younger = better. And that’s ageist. So by thanking them, you were colluding.

    And you are colluding any time you buy a product that advertises itself as ‘anti-ageing’. And playing right into the hands of those who profit from the ageist attitudes that are so rampant, particularly in the USA. (Here in Europe, it is far less noticeable. And far more women here are happy to let their hair go naturally grey

    I agree that it is time to give a thumbs down to ageist humour. BUT – there is one exception. If we make and share those jokes AMONGST OURSELVES, that’s just fine. That’s not ageist. You can be against ageism and yet still accept that getting old isn’t all honey and roses. There are aspects of it that are difficult. And when life is difficult, ‘gallows humour’ is definitely something to appreciate. We are all in this together.It helps to laugh about it.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      You are on spot with all of the points you make, Marian! I, for one, become very uncomfortable when people make comments about my appearance in relation to age—must admit, I never know what to say, so I say nothing. Yes, we are all guilty of collusion, in two areas particularly—hair dying and purchase of anti-aging products. But I loved your last point best…gallows humor is the best way to describe it!

  6. I figure at 78 my main job is to be happy and fulfilled, showing my daughter that getting older is nothing to fear. I like the old writer’s expression, “Show, don’t tell.”

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Please share with us, your techniques for demonstrating how you are achieving happiness and fulfillment, Jean. Your daughter is fortunate!

    2. It’s just the art of happiness: self-awareness and commitment and practice. It’s a a commitment I made over 60 years ago, so I’ve had a lot of practice.

      Another way of looking at it is happiness is like a garden, just keep pulling the weeds and nurturing the flowers.

      1. Still the Lucky Few

        Good analogy! I love gardening, so it works for me! Sometimes, a commitment a person makes really sticks, and it appears to be so for you.

  7. Along the lines of – we are no different to anyone else in the community – a friend of mine was ‘complaining’ about there being a department in the hospital devoted to geriatric care. Why do they have to seperate us, she said. Can’t we be treated the same as everyone else?

    It was difficult to help her understand the reasons why – she described the feeling of ‘almost shame’ just recently when her granddaughter had agreed to pick her up from an appointment at the ‘old codgers place’ (the g/daughter’s words)

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      I can understand your friends’ concern about being segregated according to age. I think it’s based on the intensity of need, and especially if Alzheimers is involved. But correct me if there is something I’ve missed, Cathy!

  8. I don’t know what is happening here with your blog to me – but other than title, the first picture and the commentators info – there is NO text showing up for me…I noticed it a few weeks ago but thought it was “bad hair day” – I tried unsubscribing and resubscribing and I can place this comment (well hope I can…) to say where I’ve got to…

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Cathy, I’m sorry to hear this. I have no idea what I can do from this end, since other subscribers seem to be receiving this blog as usual. I will give my tech a quick call, and let you know what she suggests.

  9. It was a bit of a shock and took some getting used to when I realized that I was being marginalized by society because of my age. Given the pace of today’s world, it is a bit easy to understand how that has happened but it still stings and makes me even more aware of how unaware and accepting of the marginalization of many other groups of people I had been. The upside to slowing down and marginalization is that it has made me a good pal to my grandchildren whose voice is also not heard by society.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      Young children are also disparaged and ignored, it’s true. The good thing is, they have a lifetime to change that! I know I am being marginalized because of my age, and it stings! After a life of being respected for what I do (teach), it’s hard to get used to it! So maybe we should fight back, eh, Bernadette?

  10. I am blessed with a lot of friends and relatives in my age group and also of much younger ones primarily from my network of alumni, children’s friends, etc. I have so far not experienced any negative emotions in my interactions and in fact I enjoy the banter with all of them. Coincidentally, just a couple of days ago, I too wrote a post on Age and the comments there are very interesting. You might like to drop in and have a look.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      I missed that one, Rummuser, but I’ll make sure I catch up to it this morning! I know you have a different experience, and that may be in some part, due to the culture in which you live, or it may be due to the wise and respected person you are!

  11. there is one thing i particularly don’t like. and it goes along with the unintentionally but nevertheless demeaning names of “honey” and “sweetheart” that so many waitresses tend to use. one even recently went so far as to say to me “more coffee young’in?” good lord.
    and also how some people seem to think it’s complimentary to say “mrs X is 83 years young today!” or Joe is 72 years young. it has just always sounded stupid to me.
    no one else is given that spritely supposedly witty proclamation of their age.
    “i’m 8 years old.” “i’m 32 years old.” “i’m 50 years old.” then after 60 … “he’s 65 years young!” ???

  12. I’m 75 and still make jokes about being old. I think a bit of it is a sort of “whistling past the graveyard” and the rest is simply a choice of laughing or crying. I’m not sure jokes at the expense of the older generation will ever stop because some of it probably stems from a conscious or subconscious fear of inevitably growing old. Makes me wonder if your #3 is backwards; instead of “Jokes about old people make younger people dread aging,” maybe it’s “younger people dread aging so they make jokes about old people.” Again, whistling past the graveyard.

    In any case, I’m content and take little if any offense to ageism. My 15-yr-old grandson told me I’m a “kick-ass grandma” so all’s right with my world.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      #75 was a watershed number for me. Made me realize that I had only a few years to realize something I always wanted to do—hence this blog. I think fear may be a motivation for making jokes, although I’d never thought of it that way. Good point, PT!

      1. I don’t know why the number 75 resonates the way it does. But my birthday was a month ago and it has definitely felt like a milestone of some kind.

  13. Beautiful post. You opened my eyes to an area of disparaging humor I hadn’t thought much about and I really appreciate this. Thank you for making me aware!

    I actually found this quite randomly, because I am a woman living with a serious neurological condition called narcolepsy which is still the butt of many jokes in the media and entertainment world. I’ve recently found Thomas Ford’s research about disparaging humor extremely illuminating in our fight to reduce stigma and discrimination for individuals living with narcolepsy.

    Grateful for all those out there opening society’s eyes to different viewpoints and helping us build a brighter future for all.

    1. Still the Lucky Few

      You appear to have a wonderfully positive attitude while living with a difficult condition. It’s great to hear you speak out, Julie! I hope to use my blog as a place to explore issues, and bring awareness to them, and hopefully help people to have a better life.

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